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| Ok...I grew up in HB in the early 1960's thru the 1970's. Does that make me an "oldtimer"? |
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| Everyone they knew, friends & relatives alike, told my parents they were crazy. They had one small child (me) and another on the way, and they decided to buy a house in this wilderness out in the boondocks called Howard Beach. Nobody had ever heard of the place. It took 90 minutes on the subway and the bus to get there from my Grandparents house in Boro Park, Brooklyn. The streets were laid out and the sidewalks were in, but for the most part there were entire square blocks with nothing but sand and trees on them; no houses at all. My folks took out a 30 year mortgage. Sometimes they could barely make the payments. The house cost $6,000.00, and the year was 1938. We lived there until just after my Dad passed away in 1970. Mom sold the house for around $45,000.00. Two years later it was sold again for $60,000.00 It sold again a few years later for over $100,000.00. I have no idea what it might be worth today, but I'll venture to say a lot more. I know that the town has grown and changed greatly since I hung out at the baseball batting range on Cross Bay Blvd, but I still have many a fond memory of that smaller and quieter Howard Beach where I grew up.
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| Yes, being born in the 60's makes you a sort of old timer. Also that story Ira told about his family was so good. I really enjoyed it. I was born in 1946, in Howard Beach, old side. It was a lovely place then and in some ways still is. Yes, it has changed of course, but it still has some of the old people or their families. I love to hear about how it was back then when we all used to go 'killying in the creek" with a milk bottle filled with bread and tied on a heavy string. We then used the killies for bait to catch blue clawed crabs. Those were the days! |
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We need more of you old timers to make this site like the last one was. We did have a lot more people involved with the old site. Talk about what you remember as a child, that's what people come in here for.
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I agree old times are still very interesting and bring back some great memories. I can remember playing baseball at "Casino Park" - the name before Charles park. There was only one baseball field back then 1956. When you came down 99th St. to 165th Ave. you came to the tennis courts. There was nothing but trees and open fields between the tennis courts and the baseball field except for a set of swing and a see-saw on 97th Street. Somebody was always setting fire to the weeds between the concrete boardwalk and the bay, fire trucks were there almost every week during the summer. I can still almost taste the hotdogs from "Beezers" on 95th St and 165the Ave. Hot dogs were $.10 coke also ten cents hamburgers $.15, candy a nickel. We would walk the beach to pick up bottles and turn them in for deposit 2 cents for 7 or 12 oz. and a nickel for the quart bottles. Didn't take long to get lunch and a bunch of junk. I ruined my appetite many times those summer days. I too remember getting milk bottles and a piece of bread to get "killies" and fish off the bridge that crossed from Howard Beach into Hamilton Beach at 165th Ave. I can remember diving off the bridge and swimming in the cannal off 99th street. Swimming off Pearson's dock at 164th St. were great days. In winter ice skating on the canal when it froze over. It didn't do it ever year but we had a few good winters there with never a kid going thru the ice. Playing "punch ball" in the street during lunch at OLG. So many memories and thanks to this site I am remembering more. I will be back. Hope others will as well. |
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My memories include playing stickball on 156th Avenue (new side) and hardly ever getting interrupted by a passing car, roller hockey in the original St. Helens parking lot, attending Sunday mass in a basement room of one of the garden apartments in Lindenwood before St Helen's built the first church, taking a bus to go to school at PS 63 because PS 207 was not built yet, fishing off of the Cross Bay Bridge, Meats-n- Treats supermarket, walking to the subway station to go to the "City", and biking around all of old and new Howard Beach to visit friends!
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quote: Originally posted by casinobabe:
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| [/quote]Casinobabe---
I have lived in Howard Beach since 1934 and saw it grow. At that time I was 1 year old. There were only 2 churches at that time. Our Lady of Grace and Saint Barnabas. There was no new Howard Beach or Lindenwood. Very few stores on Crossbay. There was a minature golf game. Down at the park which was originally called Casino Park, there was a building at the foot of the bridge going from Howard to Hamilton Beach. On July 4th there were games played for the kids to compete in and the building served food and drinks. You could also go inside to get out of the sun and relax. Will talk again soon. |
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Is there any way you could share pictures you might have of Howard Beach from the 1930's and 1940's. how different it must have looked! I believe CrossBay Blvd must have been pretty vacant and that the LIRR station in HB was still active. What did the "new" side look like? |
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| Anyone out there remember hanging out at white castle after last period at John Adams--65-66...The waitresses were still on roller skates. We put 20 people in one car to keep warm while we hung out there...........or the big black out????? Parking the cars on the lawn for light.... |
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| I love this old timers forum. I don't remember a whole lot about Howard Beach but reading all this helps me to recall the days visiting my grandmothers and walking around Howard Beach. My parents and grandparents grew up there and its fun to try and recognize some of the 'hot' spots. Fuzzy but warm memories. Thanks! |
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| We moved to 97th Street and 164th Avenue in 1959. I was 5 and I remember the complete freedom and safety. We never locked doors, we walked and biked wherever we wanted to, went fishing for killies at the creek-I tried to keep them for pets though. I loved your recollection of BeeZee's. We did the same thing with the bottles. I am sure more than a few of us did. How about the winter? When we had a blizzard, Howard Beach was just about forgotten when it came to snow plows! We were snowed in-literally. For those of us down near the park, we didn't go to school. A simple thing like a quart of milk was a walk "to town". Oh-I LOVED those snowstorms! What happened to them? Does anyone remember when we were snowed in for about a week-no busses or anything-drifts six feet high in the middle of the streets? I think I was in High School-maybe 1968 or 1969. Here's another-If it rained too hard and the creek rose, the streets were flooded. This was before we had sewers. I remember the nuns actually picking us up from the bus door and passing us along like a fire brigade to the sidewalk so we could get to school, because the streets had water knee-high. During Hurricane Donna-people were traveling aroung in row boats. |
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| I used to live in Hamilton Beach as a kid in the 60s and early 70s at 9969 163 rd and I to have fond memories playing football in wolfs field, Sleding down the walk over bridge in the winter. Fishing and crabing in the canel, Man it was great. I wish I could go back. Does anybody out there remember us (The Behrens Family)
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Maloclusion:
Is there any way you could share pictures you might have of Howard Beach from the 1930's and 1940's. how different it must have looked! I believe CrossBay Blvd must have been pretty vacant and that the LIRR station in HB was still active. What did the "new" side look like?
My ggrand parents had pictures of howard beach when there was like 3 houses there and it wasn't HB yet, my grandparents and my parents told me stories about how RP (rockwoodpark = new howard) and crossbay were nothing but a single gas station on one side and sea grass on the other side, a race track of some kind where the belt pkwy and RP is, i remember when i was a kid and the canal was clear, and you could see bottom.
Crossbay was nicer, there was like a car here and there parked in the street, you could look down 160th ave and see 1 or 2 cars parked, same with most streets then, everyone knew eachothers parents you couldn't do anything really wrong without it somehow getting back to your parents. It was nice all the store owners knew who you were and spoke to you, knew what it was your grandmother or mother wanted even if you didn't, i still go to Sal's when i go to see my parents and my grandparents on the weekends, sometimes i still see Bob (not driving the deliveries anymore) abe in the hardware store is gone , so is hellers , so is the bowling alley, the train station is under construction, i would like it better if it stayed the way it was, crossbay changes every few years, and i can't remember his name off the top of my head but the haircutter is still there in town.
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If you go into the History part of Howard Beach you will find some old pictures.
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| Yeah Mrs. Latwaituce had alot more than the site has i have seen the sites pictures, Mrs. Latwaituce (if spelled correctly) lived on 158th ave right off 99th st on the south side of 158th ave next to the blue corner house, her Husband owned the metal shop in town behind the former movie theatre now No.1 auto body he used to make screws for the govt or air planes or something |
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Anyone out there remember hanging out at white castle after last period at John Adams--65-66...The waitresses were still on roller skates. We put 20 people in one car to keep warm while we hung out there...........or the big black out????? Parking the cars on the lawn for light....
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The thing I remember most of when we moved to Howard Beach from the Bronx was that we went to White Castle for dinner and they had skating waitresses.
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quote: Originally posted by Howie M:
The thing I remember most of when we moved to Howard Beach from the Bronx was that we went to White Castle for dinner and they had skating waitresses.
That White Castle is now next to the bowling alley on rockaway blvd next to the old dead l or the long island rr, they moved from its original spot down the block
Thanks Evil. I noticed when I went to show my kids where " Dad" went to school, Adams. Peace, Howie |
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| Do any of you “old timers” remember Vito’s Barber Shop in old HB, facing 101st St., right behind Heller's Drug Store and what ever happened to him? |
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| Lol i think you are the 1st person to ask about those homes, i will have to ask my Dad about that again but something about the airport then called idelwild airport claiming land, i think they went with the houses that were on the other side of the tracks |
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| Reply to Evil- your post of 9-28-03 is true about only the East side of tracks (LIRR then)back in the '50s. The Bordwalk I mention is still there today, but the homes on stilts that were attached to it by other narrow bordwalks went missing after I left in early '60s. Is your dad from "Rockwood Park." |
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Can anyone tell me what happened and when: to the now missing few dozen “homes on stilts” that ran along the west side of the subway tracks and were attached to the old wood boardwalk that led into Hamilton Beach?
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I think there was a fire a looong time ago in the late 60's and it burned down. Remember there used to be an Aquarium there. And they used to rent motor boats from there too. If anyone wants to reply please also send it to my Email. jsdw100@yahoo.com
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Can anyone tell me what happened and when, to the old wood bridge that went from old HB at 99th St. and 165th Ave. into Hamilton Beach?
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I used to live in Hamilton Beach as a kid in the 60s and early 70s at 9969 163 rd and I to have fond memories playing football in wolfs field, Sleding down the walk over bridge in the winter. Fishing and crabing in the canel, Man it was great. I wish I could go back. Does anybody out there r
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| hi dave i remember you and your family we lived on the same block me and your sister sharon were best friends im now living in florida not to far from you my husband was friends with your brother donald i think you use to be friends with my brothers jimmy and steven if you remember me give me a holler |
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Sorry, wrong David. I don't have any sisters. I grew up in Lindenwood
hi dave i remember you and your family we lived on the same block me and your sister sharon were best friends im now living in florida not to far from you my husband was friends with your brother donald i think you use to be friends with my brothers jimmy and steven if you remember me give me a holler
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quote: Originally posted by Randy Steele:I lived there then, and it was no accident, it happened in the late 60's or early 70's, it either blew up or burned down, I really can't remember. I lived there from 62 thru 95
Can anyone tell me what happened and when, to the old wood bridge that went from old HB at 99th St. and 165th Ave. into Hamilton Beach?
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| casinobabe you were a babe i remember every thing you talk about all the old friends and places. spent lots of time with bread and milk bottle fishing in the canal. ice sports in the winter.the canal kept us going all the time email me richard white
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I used to live in Hamilton Beach as a kid in the 60s and early 70s at 9969 163 rd and I to have fond memories playing football in wolfs field, Sleding down the walk over bridge in the winter. Fishing and crabing in the canel, Man it was great. I wish I could go back. Does anybody out there r
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quote: Originally posted by DaveBehr:
I remember the Hitzel's and the Krauss' from Hamilton Beach. That's it.
I used to live in Hamilton Beach as a kid in the 60s and early 70s at 9969 163 rd and I to have fond memories playing football in wolfs field, Sleding down the walk over bridge in the winter. Fishing and crabing in the canel, Man it was great. I wish I could go back. Does anybody out there r
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quote: Originally posted by Lindzy1:
We moved to 97th Street and 164th Avenue in 1959. I was 5 and I remember the complete freedom and safety. We never locked doors, we walked and biked wherever we wanted to, went fishing for killies at the creek-I tried to keep them for pets though. I loved your recollection of BeeZee's. We did the same thing with the bottles. I am sure more than a few of us did. How about the winter? When we had a blizzard, Howard Beach was just about forgotten when it came to snow plows! We were snowed in-literally. For those of us down near the park, we didn't go to school. A simple thing like a quart of milk was a walk "to town". Oh-I LOVED those snowstorms! What happened to them? Does anyone remember when we were snowed in for about a week-no busses or anything-drifts six feet high in the middle of the streets? I think I was in High School-maybe 1968 or 1969. Here's another-If it rained too hard and the creek rose, the streets were flooded. This was before we had sewers. I remember the nuns actually picking us up from the bus door and passing us along like a fire brigade to the sidewalk so we could get to school, because the streets had water knee-high. During Hurricane Donna-people were traveling aroung in row boats.
I remember all those things too. I think the blizzard was in Feb. 1969. It was pretty bad. I have a picture of it. We walked to Arcara's one day, during the snowed in time, with a sled. Do you remember Arcara's in Ozone Park on Liberty Ave.? It was an Italian deli.
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quote: Originally posted by Ray A.:
Maloclusion:
Is there any way you could share pictures you might have of Howard Beach from the 1930's and 1940's. how different it must have looked! I believe CrossBay Blvd must have been pretty vacant and that the LIRR station in HB was still active. What did the "new" side look like?
My ggrand parents had pictures of howard beach when there was like 3 houses there and it wasn't HB yet, my grandparents and my parents told me stories about how RP (rockwoodpark = new howard) and crossbay were nothing but a single gas station on one side and sea grass on the other side, a race track of some kind where the belt pkwy and RP is, i remember when i was a kid and the canal was clear, and you could see bottom.
Crossbay was nicer, there was like a car here and there parked in the street, you could look down 160th ave and see 1 or 2 cars parked, same with most streets then, everyone knew eachothers parents you couldn't do anything really wrong without it somehow getting back to your parents. It was nice all the store owners knew who you were and spoke to you, knew what it was your grandmother or mother wanted even if you didn't, i still go to Sal's when i go to see my parents and my grandparents on the weekends, sometimes i still see Bob (not driving the deliveries anymore) abe in the hardware store is gone , so is hellers , so is the bowling alley, the train station is under construction, i would like it better if it stayed the way it was, crossbay changes every few years, and i can't remember his name off the top of my head but the haircutter is still there in town.
Mrs. latwaituce (may be spelled wrong) ran the HB thing at st.barnabus, she had lots of pictures maybe more that what was on this site, but they left HB quite a few years ago
On the old site there were a lot of pictures of Crossbay Blvd in the 30's and 40's. I wonder why they haven't put them on this site. There is a place on the forum list where it asks for improvements of this site. Why don't you ask for the old pics to be put back? |
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| I had breakfast at White Castle in the morning on my way to Adams. Two burgers and a container of milk. It was great. Sometimes we went to Jefferson Diner instead when we had more time. It was a good time in life, about 1962. Those times are gone forever. The world is a changed place now. The safety of that place is not the same. I wonder why HB never got a high school built there? Mostly everyone went to Adams in Ozone Park. I remember taking the bus from the Casino park in the morning to Adams but if you were late, you took the bus to the train station and then took the train to Rockaway Blvd. and got off there to go to school. Does anyone remember Rocco's Italian restaurant under the el? Does anyone know if it's still there? |
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| My grandparents lived on Russell Street in Hamilton Beach--I don't know if anyone remembers them--the were the Dwyer family. I remember the old bridge back in the late 60's early 70's that ran along the A tracks. There were a lot of dilapidated homes filled with lots of love. My family was very close with the Lynch family--my cousin just moved to Hamilton Beach after marrying a Lynch--they just rebuilt a home there. My grandparent's house is still there but falling apart. If anyone has any old stories email me at triciaesq@aol.com. |
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| I live in Howar Beach from 1935 until 1955. We lived on 99th street between 159 and 160 streets. I remember the golf driving range on crossbay I used to ice skate there, there was not much on the crossbay. I have pictures on 99th street from the 1920 that my grandparents took from their house. I remeber the Frank Charles post at the casino, the ball fields that the bars played every sunday softball. I went to OLG and graduated in 1949 and Adams in 1953. Have been living in Florida for 15 years went back only twice. What a change. I used to be able to walk from my house to the casino with out hittin g house. I remember the fire on the train tressel and the houses on the canal. I swam from 100th street to the casino. Does anyone remember the PT boat in the canal by the crossbay. Val Stauder |
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| I'm a member of the Hussey & Falkenmeyer families. We've been here for what seems like forever. My father grew up in South Aqueduct & my mother in East Hamilton. I've lived in Hamilton 46 of my 48 years. I don't know where to start. I remember all O. L. G. students were required to arrive on Sunday morning(rain/snow or shine & no school bus to get you there) to line up, have attendance taken, to attend the 9 AM mass. I remember my mother taking my brother & me over both wooden bridges to go to Kiddie Park & jump on the trampolines. Learning to swim in Hamilton creek & being pushed off the 'NEW BRIDGE' when I chickened out on my first attemp to jump, thanks Mike Fogarty. Who could forget the volleys summer end bazaar, firemens parade, & finally the baby day parade. I remember 2 white pillowcases, a blow up dinosaur from a gas station, some oaktag paper & a piece of plywood with wheels attached got my brother & I a first place trophey in 1962 as Wilma & Fred Flintstone. So simple yet so priceless. One year my mother tried at the very last minute to do something with my brother & 4 younger sisters entering them as the little ole wine maker me. My sisters crushed grapes in an old wooden playpen on top of a flimsy piece of plywood while my brother sat on a stool holding a bottle of wine, the thing fell apart at every block, everyone got a good laugh. Again, preiceless. Every winter my father would get the hose from the volleys & fill to freeze a vacant lot where all the neighborhood kids could ice skate. |
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Well, i lived in HB 1969-89 - old HB - my grandmother who lived in Richmond Hill told me "Casino" Park was originally a casino in the 20-30s (i think). and HB was a beach resort like the Hamptons is now.
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We need more of you old timers to make this site like the last one was. We did have a lot more people involved with the old site. Talk about what you remember as a child, that's what people come in here for.
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Well, i lived in HB 1969-89 - old HB - my grandmother who lived in Richmond Hill told me "Casino" Park was originally a casino in the 20-30s (i think). and HB was a beach resort like the Hamptons is now.
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We need more of you old timers to make this site like the last one was. We did have a lot more people involved with the old site. Talk about what you remember as a child, that's what people come in here for.
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Well, i lived in HB 1969-89 - old HB - my grandmother who lived in Richmond Hill told me "Casino" Park was originally a casino in the 20-30s (i think). and HB was a beach resort like the Hamptons is now.
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We need more of you old timers to make this site like the last one was. We did have a lot more people involved with the old site. Talk about what you remember as a child, that's what people come in here for.
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| Some very interesting stories here! I was born in Howard Beach in the '40's, and love reading all this stuff from even before I was there. I know there is a very big difference in the area from when I left in 1972, but it's still a great area with a lot of good people still there. What I noticed when I went back to visit was that the Blvd. is was so congested and didn't look as clean as it once did. Old Howard is about the same except that it's overcrowded. Haven't been "in town", to the old stores in Old Howard, how is that area now? Are there still a lot of stores there? Is there still some type of supermarket or grocery store where the A&P used to be? I remember how small that A&P was. I'm sure it couldn't accomodate all the people on the old side, these days. |
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| Frank Charles Memorial Park, is that Casino Park now? Where is Hamilton Beach Park? |
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| Charles park is where the casino was, the casino was before charles park..
Hamilton park is still where it is.
The a&p is now a heating/oil company..Sal the butcher is still there and mike sal's son is there.
The chinese food take out is on the other block facing the train station..
the deli is still of the corner of 160th ave and 102nd, and the bar across the street and the other bar next to the post office |
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| I went to Adams and gratduated in 1963. I do not remember there being any roller skates on the servers at White Castle. I guess that came later, after Happy Days was on the air. In my day, the servers just walked in shoes. They did have the outdoor car service, though. |
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| Ira, you make it sound so beautiful, as I remember it! Your story is so interesting. |
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quote: Originally posted by Terry:
I'm a member of the Hussey & Falkenmeyer families. We've been here for what seems like forever. My father grew up in South Aqueduct & my mother in East Hamilton. I've lived in Hamilton 46 of my 48 years. I don't know where to start. I remember all O. L. G. students were required to arrive on Sunday morning(rain/snow or shine & no school bus to get you there) to line up, have attendance taken, to attend the 9 AM mass. I remember my mother taking my brother & me over both wooden bridges to go to Kiddie Park & jump on the trampolines. Learning to swim in Hamilton creek & being pushed off the 'NEW BRIDGE' when I chickened out on my first attemp to jump, thanks Mike Fogarty. Who could forget the volleys summer end bazaar, firemens parade, & finally the baby day parade. I remember 2 white pillowcases, a blow up dinosaur from a gas station, some oaktag paper & a piece of plywood with wheels attached got my brother & I a first place trophey in 1962 as Wilma & Fred Flintstone. So simple yet so priceless. One year my mother tried at the very last minute to do something with my brother & 4 younger sisters entering them as the little ole wine maker me. My sisters crushed grapes in an old wooden playpen on top of a flimsy piece of plywood while my brother sat on a stool holding a bottle of wine, the thing fell apart at every block, everyone got a good laugh. Again, preiceless. Every winter my father would get the hose from the volleys & fill to freeze a vacant lot where all the neighborhood kids could ice skate.
Oh! I remember iceskating next to someone's house in HB in 1957. That could have been where you're talking about. |
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ok i'm not and old timer lol , but i grew up in howard beach, what a life, i lived there from 1970 to 1982 i left when i was 16 my name is lizzy i lived on russell st. across from rileys yaucht club, i had a great life there, when i lived there everybody knew everybody, i remember jumping off the crossover bridge from howard beach to hamilton beach, playing handball at casino park, walking around all the time, crossing the R.R tracks to hang out on the runway of the airport, riding the train to rockaway park, these are just a few things i remember doing in h.b......loved every minute of it ...... miss it so much |
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I remember the behrens, there was billy which i heard he passed away and then there laurie i don't remember her parents name .... do you remember the buckleys????? or the werners |
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We moved there in 1955, was there before New Park Pizza, but I don't consider myself an old timer, although I did say some months ago that I still think of St Helen's as the new church. The families I remember as being old HB were the Malones, Barnett's, Dotzler's, Savino's etc. |
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what was your grandparents names i grew up on russell st |
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